Off-Topic Place
30 martie 2011 2.316 comentarii
Dragi forumisti
S-a simţit nevoia unui spaţiu dedicat, unde discuţiile off-topic, destul de numeroase în ultima perioadă, să îşi găsească un loc al lor.
Datorită faptului că forumurile emisiunilor tindeau să fie deturnate de la tema principală de discuţie, devenind un fel de chat greu de urmărit, unele comentarii vor fi mutate pe acest forum, astfel incat aceia care dispun de timp liber/teme de discutie/inspiratie sa isi poata manifesta talentul pe indelete şi, în acelaşi timp, să se ofere posibilitatea de discutii şi dezbateri pentru cei interesaţi de prezentarile video.
Postarile off-topic (se pot include aici, după cum ne-au obişnuit unii: preferinţele muzicale, declaraţiile de dragoste, deversările de emoticoane, informările cu privire la dieta sau somnul personal, creaţiile artistice, repetările obsesive de idei, cererile de „rugaciune” etc… ) sunt aşadar binevenite în spaţiul pe care tocmai îl inaugurăm.
Evident, mesajele ce conţin înjurături, obscenităţi, dezvăluiri de identitate…vor fi şterse.
Mulţumesc 🙂
oxigen2 
Sms ca raspuns la minunata solie intitulata Frontal Lobe ieri la Loma Linda. ,,Lobul Frontal a fost GRAV COMPROMIS momentul in care HRISTOS a fost respins Biblia ne invata mereu cel ce Ma urmeaza pe Mine il voi numi copilul Meu . Metaforicamente vorbind a lasa pe tatal sau pe mama sa niciodata nu mi-ar fi permis inima mea Am insa FRATI si SURORI care de mama mea si-au SPALAT MIINILE exact ca PILAT.. intrebarea mea este urmatoarea Cine este lovit la Lobul Frontal eu sau cel ce refuza CHEMAREAINVATATURILE lui DUMNEZEU bazindu-se pe EU-L sau…. O zi buna doresc tuturor Ciao Iona
Azi am inteles foarte BINE ca acea solie din Loma Linda a DERANJAT prea MULT mesajul 32 lasat de Iona la Logos 66 Stiinta Indoielii deoarece au INTELES la rindul lor caci doar EL MESIA descopera ce este ADINC si ASCUNS EL stie ce este in INTUNERIC si la EL locuieste ….. LUMINA ADEVARATA LUMINA despre care vi-am vorbit la tel Speranta tv …TEMETI-VA de DUMNEZEU si DATI-I SLAVA caci a sosit ceasul JUDECATII ,,SALE”… :clock: :clock: :clock:
Va invit sa ASCULTATI cu ATENTIE STUPENDA solie a domnului Edi Constantinescu intitulata ,,MUSTRAREA FARISEILOR” COMPLIMENTI,COMPLIMENTI,COMPLIMENTI cu adevarat placuta urechiilor mele , mai PUTIN placuta urechiilor FARISEILOR , CARTURARILOR ecc….
Nespus de TULBURAT eu la telefon Speranta Tv.Ro cind te-am chemat ,ti-am povestit VISUL meu trimis de Dumnezeu .Tu ai refuzat sa-l talmacesti desi cunosteai foarte BINE intelesul sau,doar ,,EL EMANUEL” ASTAZI cu ADEVARAT mi L-a DESTAINUITTALMACIT .Ohhhh nespus de MARE e LUMINA ,PUTEREA SA si mai APROAPE ca NICIODATA ESTE cu ADEVARAT REVENIREA ,,SA” …zilele tale Israele iti sint NUMARATE .. :clock: :clock: :clock: Cu multa dragoste Ciao Iona :heart:
MINUNAT a LUCRAT DREPT si ADEVARAT ATOTPUTERNICUL DUMNEZEUL Meu Dati -i CINSTE SLAVA si MARIRE IMPARATULUI CERESC al lui IONA …
Viteza LUMINII mi-a fost destainuita AZI de HRISTOS indiferent de MASTILE celor NECREDINCIOSI ,,DUMNEZEUL MEU ATOTPUTERNIC CARE A JUDECAT DREPT SI ADEVARAT ”pe cei ce L-au TRADAT Israele Israele SCURTATE iti sunt ZILELE”..
,,Off Topic Place ”va spune TUTUROR al Meu MINTUITOR si DREPT JUDECATOR care cu viteza LUMINII va ARUNCA in GHEENA pe TOTI ribelii sai
Dumnezeul crestinilor mi-a descoperit astazi numele de familie al trollului IONA, el este VAFFANCULO. Credinciosul sectant Iona Vaffanculo va destainuie dragostea cerului in direct la O2 impreuna cu un creier impecabil de curat; Beni! Duo-ul merita pus pe o scena de oras civilizat si invitati sa explice lumea. Ma ofer manager fiindca miroase a bani buni avand in vedere ce comedie ar iesi!
cauta sa faci voia sa vei obtine imparatia lui Dracula
cauta sa faci voia Lui si vei ajunge un sectant imbecil
~ Carl Sagan
probabil nu au avut ochii si mintea deschise catre mesajul plin de iubire al domnului
„mesajul plin de iubire al domnului”?
din biblie, ha?
cred ca glumesti, uitandu-te in lume… un „domn” care a considerat ca e mai bine sa plece, sa ne „iubeasca” de acolo, din „cer”… cu o iubire inexistenta.
si ce face? priveste si se roaga? plange si suspina ca o femeie/adolescenta neregulata si deprimata la ciclu? doar priveste, ha?
halal iubire!
un „domn” fabricat de domnul pavel, de fapt.
Pai sa nu-i dai un mare scuipat in fatza unuia ca Beni Stupid Plesa cand vine la tine cu un mesaj (repetat obsesiv) ca asta: „Jesus loves you”?
Amice, esti imbecil, lunatic sau orb (orbit de indoctrinare)?
_ _ _ _ you and _ _ _ _ your Jesus too! :talktothehand:
You’re free to believe whatever you want, but leave me the _ _ _ _ alone with this bullshit. I’m sick and tired to hear it.
„Cu drag”??
Pune, ba, mana si gandeste, baaa! Nu o mai freca aiurea cu „credinta”, ci incepe sa gandesti! Foloseste-ti ratiunea, pe care pretinzi ca ti-a oferit-o dumnezeul ala al tau. Educa-te, invata despre lucrurile care ne inconjoara, informeaza-te despre universul in care traim, despre legile care-l guverneaza. Cap patrat si minte ingusta, plina de prejudecati si gandire deziderativa, prea las ca sa accepti realitatea asa cum este.
Macar ai bunul simt, bai omule, si pastreaza-ti convingerile religioase pentru tine. O minciuna frumoasa nu se va transforma niciodata in adevar, indiferent cat de intens sau orbeste este crezuta. Credinta intr-o zeitate (sau viata vesnica) nu te va face niciodata mai bun, mai liber sau mai inteligent.
What is a Nontheist?
A nontheist is an individual who does not believe in a higher power, supreme being or supernatural entities.
A nontheist might choose one or more of many labels. Common terms include atheist, agnostic, freethinker, skeptic, humanist, secularist, naturalist.
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„Our purpose of existence is, since we don’t know what it is, to find out what it is.”
Credeam ca doar A.I. e cu patratul, nu si B.P.
Stiai sau NU stiai Conducatorii din Biserica AZS din Ro.de SINGE NEVINOVAT ea s-a INTINAT astfel a fost JUDECAT intr-un mod MINUNAT de Al Meu ADEVARAT ,ATOTPUTERNIC IMPARAT ..Cel ce are constiinta la loc NU ASCUNDE ADEVARUL pe leptop el il EXPUNE vine la tine si iti spune ,,POCAIESTE-TE in SAC si CENUSA deoarece DUMNEZEU este la USA”……. :clock: :heart: :clock:
Hai mai bagă Rap din ăsta profetic, dumnezeiesc…
Iona hai sa-ti dau tzatza, mai trebuie si ceva usor sa compenseze rahaturile tale, laptic?
Tim Minchin uses comedy to open a door to rationalism
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/culturelab/2011/11/tim-minchin-uses-comedy-to-open-a-door-to-rationalism.html
Albert Einstein remarks on Bertrand Russell’s Theory of Knowledge.. and his term „illusion of naive realism”
http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/einstein_russell.htm
Daniel Dennett on Scientism
http://humanists4science.blogspot.com/2011/11/dan-dennett-on-scientism.html
„Finally, my view on faith, god and religion” [final section of the article]
http://mental-world.blogspot.com/2011/10/does-god-exist-conversation-between.html
Hey guys, look at this picture! :yes:
„There is a nice video of the experiments that Bloom has done with babies.
This is why science and religion are at loggerheads. As science advances, religion simply has less room to exist. This is true in all areas of knowledge and, in particular, in the area of morality. We now realize that evolution has given us two great gifts: basic moral instincts and the capacity to reason. The latter has enabled us to build on the former and create the complex moral systems that currently exist. God is entirely superfluous.”
http://machineslikeus.com/news/where-does-our-morality-come
Pompilain,
dumneavoastra sunteti un crestin adevarat si sincer. Stiu (dincolo de credinta) ca ma iubiti ca pe un frate, chiar daca un frate vitreg care nu va imbratiseaza credinta religioasa. Dumneavoastra mi-ai reamintit de atatea ori ca Isus, Prietenul si Salvatorul dumneavoastra, supranatural, cu care aveti o relatie personala, ma iubeste nespus de mult. Neconditionat. Spuneti-mi, va rog, ce se intampla cu mine (sau cu oricine altcineva aflat intr-o situatie asemanatoare) daca nu-l iubesc pe Isus? Ma mai iubeste la fel de mult? Ma va iubi cu aceeasi intensitate, chiar daca refuz sa-i fiu prieten?
All our science, measured against reality,
is primitive and childlike—and yet it is
the most precious thing we have.
A L B E R T E I N S T E I N
(1879-1955)
„Religion is dangerous because it allows human beings who don’t have all the answers to think that they do. Most people would think it’s wonderful when someone says, „I’m willing, Lord! I’ll do whatever you want me to do!” Except that since there are no gods actually talking to us, that void is filled in by people with their own corruptions and limitations and agendas. And anyone who tells you they know, they just know what happens when you die, I promise you, you don’t. How can I be so sure? Because I don’t know, and you do not possess mental powers that I do not. The only appropriate attitude for man to have about the big questions is not the arrogant certitude that is the hallmark of religion, but DOUBT. Doubt is humble, and that’s what man needs to be…”
@Emma #154,
„Mars in mortii vostri de rahati indoctrinati!” este o replică ce te îndeamnă la simpatie și afecțiune ?
Impulsul lui asta micu care e 3 in 1 nu salveaza de prostie si nici de fudulie! Impulsul respectiv e ca o basina intr-un autobuz plin, de unde vine si unde se duce, numai duhul din capul lui Beni ne poate arata…adevarul!
SpellBound
Piesa asta reflecta intr-un fel argumentul lui Epicur.
Viata nu poate fi depasita, ai speranta insa ea se naruie. Nu ramane decat strigatul, cautarea , framantarea, caci nu e nimeni care sa te salveze.
Dumnezeu nu poate. Baiatul meu e fan Linkin Park si-l intreb ce simte , cum interpreteaza cantecele. Si mi-a spus ca tot ce se vede , toata lumea asta e un mare „nu stiu”.Si cat ai incerca sa-ti explici umele lucruri simti ca nu e nimeni sa-ti rezolve framantarile spirituale. Nu ai nimic care sa te faca sa te ridice, mai bine acel „lasa-ma” aici pentru ca aici e viata si ea nu poate fi depasita printr-un miracol .De fapt si miracolul salvarii are imprimata imaginea distrugerii, a focului .
Si daca tinerii vad viata ca un strigat de durere a cui e vina ?
Poate sa faca Dumnezeu binele si nu vrea sau nu poate ?
La multi ani tuturor romanilor
Cum ar arata lumea fara Romania?
http://ro.wikisource.org/wiki/Povestea_pove%C8%99tilor
Si cica poate fi si falsificata! 😮
La multi ani, Ianise!
Dar noi nu suntem mandri ca suntem romani, sa mor daca te mint.
Nationalismul nu se prinde deloc de noi. Asemenea religiei.
http://www.romaniisuntdestepti.ro/
commentul #25 este off-topic. 😀
CJ
Am ascultat si cred ca nu trebuia trecut la off…intrucat Tyson raspunde la multe intrebari care s-au pus si pe aici.
Si se vede cum stiinta doboara spiritul gregar, adica oile in cautare de pastorul care sa-i indrume spre absolut.
De la „nimicul’ existential la multivers, intr-o „predica” plina de substanta.
Thanks, Emma. For listening. For checking things out.
Samson,
Nu te mai obosi sa faci pe smecherul mistocar interesant. N-ai nici umor, nici esenta in comentariilor tale. Asa de prost stai cu sinele ca e musai sa te bage cineva in seama?
Daca tot vrei sa faci ceva, raspunde pe un ton educat de animal ce esti evoluat, binenteles daca ti se va cere vreodata!
Frate rola….
Pana iti raspunde samson(daca o avea chef) si fiindca pana la masuta cu nisip mai sunt doua zile o sa iti dau un sfat:Mergi mata in camera de sus si roaga-te la oglinjoara din stanga lu pamela anderson pentru un upgrade la simtul umorului.Te-ar ajuta mult…
Ghelasie,
Frate sa-i zici lui samson, banuiesc ca v-ati jucat amandoi cu putulica in masuta cu nisip
Ba rola
Pana iti raspunde samson(daca o avea chef) si fiindca pana la masuta cu nisip mai sunt doua zile o sa iti dau un sfat:Mergi mata in camera de sus si roaga-te la oglinjoara din stanga lu pamela anderson pentru un upgrade la simtul umorului.Te-ar ajuta mult…
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v290167nBNFCMmq/briefhistoryofdisbelief
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v290939G3cdaPWh/briefhistoryofdisbelief
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v2901107jearSnF/briefhistoryofdisbelief
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v305740Ggfq3Ham/briefhistoryofdisbelief
James White putea sa faca distinctie intre opiniile personale ale sotiei sale, Ellen White, si presupusele revelatii primite de ea de la Dzeu, dar adventistii autentici din ziua de azi nu pot, considerand intregul continut al scrierilor sale de inspiratie divina.
Un comentator observa:
sursa pentru ambele citate: aceasta postare de pe blogul Spectrum.
Don’t be a religious troll… speaking in tongues. :heh: ( l freakin love this bird; it reminds me of SMP, Beni, A.I. and first_monkey)
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● Let’s talk about evolution – link
[Prominent female role models in science and science communication talk about evolution and its importance to science, medicine and society]
● How rationality can make your life more awesome – link
– Rationality alerts you when you have a false belief that’s making you worse off.
– Rationality helps you get the information you need.
– Rationality shows you how to evaluate advice.
– Rationality saves you from bad decisions.
– Rationality trains you to step back from your emotions so that they don’t cloud your judgment.
● NOVA | THE FABRIC OF THE COSMOS: Universe or Multiverse – link
● In his presentation entitled „The Shell Game,” The Thinking Atheist addresses the doubles standards and parlor tricks Christianity and other religious use to justify often contradictory, immoral and often ridiculous behavior.
● Hey nonbeliever, are you totally OK with this too?
“Instead of staying and creating world peace and the perfect world, I’m going to show you how much I love you by killing myself.” – your perfect god’s plan, christians (oversimplified for you, to get the idea)
„The trouble with most people is, they bow to what is called authority; they have a certain reverence for the old because it is old. They think a man is better for being dead, especially if he has been dead a long time. They think the fathers of their nation were the greatest and best of all mankind. All these things they implicitly believe because it is popular and patriotic, and because they were told so when they were very small, and remember distinctly of hearing mother read it out of a book. It is hard to over-estimate the influence of early training in the direction of superstition. You first teach children that a certain book is true–that it was written by God himself–that to question its truth is a sin, that to deny it is a crime, and that should they die without believing that book they will be forever damned without benefit of clergy. The consequence is, that long before they read that book, they believe it to be true. When they do read it their minds are wholly unfitted to investigate its claims. They accept it as a matter of course.
In this way the reason is overcome, the sweet instincts of humanity are blotted from the heart, and while reading its infamous pages even justice throws aside her scales, shrieking for revenge, and charity, with bloody hands, applauds a deed of murder. In this way we are taught that the revenge of man is the justice of God; that mercy is not the same everywhere. In this way the ideas of our race have been subverted. In this way we have made tyrants, bigots, and inquisitors. In this way the brain of man has become a kind of palimpsest upon which, and over the writings of nature, superstition has scrawled her countless lies. One great trouble is that most teachers are dishonest. They teach as certainties those things concerning which they entertain doubts. They do not say, „we think this is so.” but „we know this is so.” They do not appeal to the reason of the pupil, but they command his faith. They keep all doubts to themselves; they do not explain, they assert. All this is infamous. In this way you may make Christians, but you cannot make men; you cannot make women. You can make followers, but no leaders; disciples, but no Christs. You may promise power, honor, and happiness to all those who will blindly follow, but you cannot keep your promise.
[…]
Religion does not, and cannot, contemplate man as free. She accepts only the homage of the prostrate, and scorns the offerings of those who stand erect. She cannot tolerate the liberty of thought. The wide and sunny fields belong not to her domain. The star-lit heights of genius and individuality are above and beyond her appreciation and power. Her subjects cringe at her feet, covered with the dust of obedience. They are not athletes standing posed by rich life and brave endeavor like antique statues, but shriveled deformities, studying with furtive glance the cruel face of power.
No religionist seems capable of comprehending this plain truth. There is this difference between thought and action: for our actions we are responsible to ourselves and to those injuriously affected; for thoughts, there can, in the nature of things, be no responsibility to gods or men, here or hereafter. And yet the Protestant has vied with the Catholic in denouncing freedom of thought; and while I was taught to hate Catholicism with every drop of my blood, it is only justice to say, that in all essential particulars it is precisely the same as every other religion. Luther denounced mental liberty with all the coarse and brutal vigor of his nature; Calvin despised, from the very bottom of his petrified heart, anything that even looked like religious toleration, and solemnly declared that to advocate it was to crucify Christ afresh. All the founders of all the orthodox churches have advocated the same infamous tenet. The truth is, that what is called religion is necessarily inconsistent with free thought.
A believer is a bird in a cage, a Freethinker is an eagle parting the clouds with tireless wing. At present, owing to the inroads that have been made by liberals and infidels, most of the churches pretend to be in favor of religious liberty. Of these churches we will ask this question: How can a man, who conscientiously believes in religious liberty, worship a God who does not? They say to us: We will not imprison you on account of your belief, but our God will. We will not burn you because you throw away the sacred Scriptures, but their author will. We think it an infamous crime to persecute our brethren for opinion’s sake,–but the God, whom we ignorantly worship, will on that account, damn his own children forever.
[…]
A few years ago a Methodist clergyman took it upon himself to give me a piece of friendly advice. „Although you may disbelieve the Bible,” said he, „you ought not to say so. That, you should keep to yourself.”
„Do you believe the Bible,” said I.
He replied, „Most assuredly.”
To which I retorted, „Your answer conveys no information to me. You may be following your own advice. You told me to suppress my opinions. Of course a man who will advise others to dissimulate will not always be particular about telling the truth himself.”
Ianis ti-a venit ciclul? 🙂
Ianis ii mai pupi talpile lu miss Ellen White? E greu sa dai click pe delete prin credinta? 🙂
Mie Isus imi pare tare progresist.
Da Ellen White, Ellen White cum ti se pare? 🙂
Ohhh Ianis, sensibilule!
Climbing Mount Improbable is a 1996 popular science book by Richard Dawkins. The book is about probability and how it applies to the theory of evolution, and is specifically designed to debunk claims by creationists about the probability of naturalistic mechanisms like natural selection.
The main metaphorical treatment is of a geographical landscape, upon which evolution can only ascend in a gradual way, not being able to climb cliffs (this is known as an adaptive landscape). In the book Dawkins gives various ideas about a seemingly complex mechanism coming about from many different gradual steps that were previously unseen.
Rasfoind, cu placere, ultima carte aparuta in coletia de literatura romaneasca BIBLIOTECA PENTRU TOTI, am ales pentru voi ( SMP & AI ) aceste randuri:
‘Nenorocita privighetoare
Cânta-n pădure a ei durere,
Natura-ntreagă da ascultare,
Tot împrejuru-i era tăcere.
Alţii în locu-mi ar descrie poate
Acele tonuri neimitate,
Glasul acela-nmlădietor,
Ce c-o-ntorsură lină, uşoară,
Treptat se urcă şi se coboară,
Plin de simţire, plin de amor.
Eu vă spui numai că despărţirea
Şi suvenire pline de jale,
Că nedreptatea, nelegiuirea,
Erau sujetul cântării sale.
Un măgar mare ce-o ascultase,
Şi ca un aspru judecător
Capul pleoştise, sau ridicase
Câte-o ureche,-n semn de favor.
Ieşi-nainte să-i dea povaţă,
Şi c-o neroadă încredinţare:
„Am fost, îi zise, aci de faţă,
Dar, zău, nu-mi place a ta cântare.
Cu toate-acestea, am nădejdi bune,
De nu îţi pare lucru prea greu,
La nişte reguli a te supune,
Luând de pildă cântecul meu.”
Atunci începe cu bucurie
Un cântec jalnic şi necioplit,
Încât de aspra lui armonie,
Toată pădurea s-a îngrozit.
Privighetoarea, fără sfială,
Zise: „Povaţa e în zadar;
Căci de-aş urma-o, nu e-ndoială
Că eu în locu-ţi n-aş fi măgar”.’
GA
Esti la fel de inteligent ca si femeia de servici ianis care muta in offtopic ce nu-i convine. Cum nu intelegi ceva (sarcasm) cum descoperi un complot. Dar eu va binecuvantez in mod egal cu bunatate ca altceva nu vreti. 🙂
CJ
Ce e asta CJ ?
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