Propunere de moralitate post-religioasa

Pe 6 decembrie anul curent a aparut „Beyond Religion: Ethics for a Whole World” de Dalai Lama, caruia nu i-am acordat atentie pana in seara asta, cand am citit acest fragment din cartea sa [nu va poticniti de la primele fraze, partea fecunda a propunerii incepe de la a treia intrebare din paragraful al doilea]:

„Ultimately, the source of our problems lies at the level of the individual. If people lack moral values and integrity, no system of laws and regulations will be adequate. So long as people give priority to material values, then injustice, inequity, intolerance and greed – all the outward manifestations of neglect of inner values – will persist.

So what are we to do? Where are we to turn for help? Science, for all the benefits it has brought to our external world, has not yet provided scientific grounding for the development of the foundations of personal integrity – the basic inner human values that we appreciate in others and would do well to promote in ourselves. Perhaps we should seek inner values from religion, as people have done for millennia? Certainly religion has helped millions of people in the past, helps millions today and will continue to help millions in the future. But for all its benefits in offering moral guidance and meaning in life, in today’s secular world religion alone is no longer adequate as a basis for ethics. One reason for this is that many people in the world no longer follow any particular religion. Another reason is that, as the peoples of the world become ever more closely interconnected in an age of globalization and in multicultural societies, ethics based in any one religion would only appeal to some of us; it would not be meaningful for all. In the past, when peoples lived in relative isolation from one another – as we Tibetans lived quite happily for many centuries behind our wall of mountains – the fact that groups pursued their own religiously based approaches to ethics posed no difficulties. Today, however, any religion-based answer to the problem of our neglect of inner values can never be universal, and so will be inadequate. What we need today is an approach to ethics which makes no recourse to religion and can be equally acceptable to those with faith and those without: a secular ethics.

This statement may seem strange coming from someone who from a very early age has lived as a monk in robes. Yet I see no contradiction here. My faith enjoins me to strive for the welfare and benefit of all sentient beings, and reaching out beyond my own tradition, to those of other religions and those of none, is entirely in keeping with this.

I am confident that it is both possible and worthwhile to attempt a new secular approach to universal ethics. My confidence comes from my conviction that all of us, all human beings, are basically inclined or disposed toward what we perceive to be good. Whatever we do, we do because we think it will be of some benefit. At the same time, we all appreciate the kindness of others. We are all, by nature, oriented toward the basic human values of love and compassion. We all prefer the love of others to their hatred. We all prefer others’ generosity to their meanness. And who among us does not prefer tolerance, respect and forgiveness of our failings to bigotry, disrespect and resentment?

In view of this, I am of the firm opinion that we have within our grasp a way, and a means, to ground inner values without contradicting any religion and yet, crucially, without depending on religion. The development and practice of this new system of ethics is what I propose to elaborate in the course of this book. It is my hope that doing so will help to promote understanding of the need for ethical awareness and inner values in this age of excessive materialism.

At the outset I should make it clear that my intention is not to dictate moral values. Doing that would be of no benefit. To try to impose moral principles from outside, to impose them, as it were, by command, can never be effective. Instead, I call for each of us to come to our own understanding of the importance of inner values. For it is these inner values which are the source of both an ethically harmonious world and the individual peace of mind, confidence and happiness we all seek. Of course, all the world’s major religions, with their emphasis on love, compassion, patience, tolerance and forgiveness, can and do promote inner values. But the reality of the world today is that grounding ethics in religion is no longer adequate. This is why I believe the time has come to find a way of thinking about spirituality and ethics that is beyond religion.”


163 Responses to Propunere de moralitate post-religioasa

  1. study_nature says:

    babo, vad ca este peste puterile tale sa comentezi fara sa ma bălăcărești gratuit in fel si chip.
    afirmatiile tale spun mult mai multe despre tine decat despre cei pe care ii vizeaza.

    PS: Vad ca ma crezi in stare si de viol. Uite o observatie inteleapta – „Homophobia: the fear that gay men will treat you the way you treat women.” (via twitter)

  2. @lm@ris says:

    #1 | Written by ghelasie

    Merci de link.

    Hitch vorbeste de miracolul sau favorit din Biblie:

    Hitch in Romania la revolutie cu nelipsitul lui accesoriu fumigen:

  3. Beni Plesa says:


    „”A bracing and essential modern-day polemic from His Holiness the Dalai Lama, Beyond Religion is a blueprint for all those who yearn for a life of spiritual fulfillment as they work for a better world. This is HHDL’s new model for mutual respect and understanding – rooted in our shared humanity – between religious believers and non-believers.””

    Deocamdata respectul este pentru Cj si study-nature care se pare ca au inteles cel mai binedespre ce vorbea Dali-lama .
    „”un model nou pentru o intelegere reciproca si RESPECT intre atei si cei religiosi bazat pe umanitatea comuna ce cu totii impartasim””

    Hai sa vedem de acum incolo cine este in stare sa practice acest principiu.

    Aviz la toti amatorii –respect si intelegere reciproca–..
    Merry-christmas si pace intre oameni pe pamant .

    Cj si study-nature deocamdata sint singurii care se pare ca nu mai folosesc jigniri la adresa celor cu care dialogheaza.
    Felicitari baieti sinteti demn de urmat.

  4. multiple faces says:

    Bravo, mai baieti (si fata)! … sunt mandru de voi.

    me thinks he doesn’t give a **** about what you think… :zombiekiller:

  5. @lm@ris says:

    „Hai sa vedem de acum incolo cine este in stare sa practice acest principiu.”

    Imi place ideea ta Beni, sa dispara jignirile, dar sa nu dispara umorul…

  6. baba proasta says:

    #6 | Written by CJ
    And the trolls win again.
    Congratulations to Beni Plesa, Aurel Ionica and others like them!

    #8 | Written by Beni Plesa
    Cj si study-nature deocamdata sint singurii care se pare ca nu mai folosesc jigniri la adresa celor cu care dialogheaza.
    Felicitari baieti sinteti demn de urmat.

    Beni, scompul babei, adica CJ te face troll si tu-l feliciti ca ti-a facut un compliment! Esti sigur ca nu ai incurcat sticla de apa cu sticla lui Hitchens? Pai daca CJ si study_nature au respect fata de cineva in afara de propria persoana nu ai parere chiar asa proasta despre atei.

  7. Beni Plesa says:

    Aurel I

    Daca Dumnezeu este ingaduitor si indelung rabdator cu mine ,eu cred ca ar fi normal sa fiu si eu cu cei care inca nu au ajuns la perfectiunea ceruta de constinta lor.
    Pe study-nature l-am admirat intotdeauna ,iar CJ este ateul meu preferat ce in ultima vreme se pare ca ;evolutia sau Dumnezeu lucreaza in mod misterios prin mutatii radicale la transformarea caracterului sau.
    Ca ne-a facut TROLLI ,da este adevarat, dar hai sa fim ingaduitori si sa nu frangem chiar de tot trestia indoita si nici sa nu stringem carbunele care inca mai fumega.
    La toti este loc de mai bine si in special in a ne oprii sa ridiculizam doar de dragul de a rani pe cineva.
    A ridiculiza o iedee este constructiv can intentiile sint nevinovate ,insa a ridiculiza persoana este ceva pacatos sau impotriva spiritului de cooperare in procesul evolutiei (pentru ce ce cred in evolutie).
    Vorba lui IM-RIS criticam ideile si nu persoana si daca se poate sa nu eliminam umorul sanatos.

  8. emma says:


    nota 10 cu felicitari!

  9. Băbuţă proastă şi Benilain,

    Cică vă judecă lumea. Care lume ? Or fi poate unii dintre ăia care strigau acum cca 22 de ani la Universitate: „Noi suntem poporul ?”

  10. Beni Plesa says:


    Multumesc pentru nota 10 cu felicitari si sint convins ca cei mai multi dintre cei care citesc si posteaza aici pe site ,in general sintem oameni cu „scaun la cap” si dorim sa dezbatem idei si nu folosim cuvinte cu scopul de a ATACA pe cineva .
    Aceatsa nota 10 cu felicitari doresc sa o impartasesc cu TOTI ce se vor abtine de la comentarii jignitoare intentionat.

    Dar astazi Edi este cel ce merita nota 10 cu doua plusuri si sa nu uitam frumosul comentariu de la incheierea prezentarii lui;
    „””Sintm angrenati intr-un proces de cunoastere ,o cunoastere a lumii care ne inconjoara si in acest quest (explorare) trebuie sa avem INCREDERE in LEGILE PE CARE DUMNEZEU LE-A DAT GANDIRII OMULUI.””

    „”ce avem si nu este de fapt un DAR de la Dumnezeu ,si daca l-am primit de la Dumnezeu ,de ce ne laudam ca si cum nu l-am fi primit””( Pavel)

    Edi a punctat foarte bine sursa capacitatii noastre de a gandi logic – adica DUMNEZEU_,si bine este sa nu uitam acest factor important .

    Ce parere ai tu despre afirmatia si concluziile ce rezulta din premisele bine prezentate de EDI ?

  11. Aberandus Filantropitecus says:

    sursa capacitatii noastre de a gandi logic – adica DUMNEZEU_,si bine este sa nu uitam acest factor important .

    Ohhh Benilain m-ai atins pana la lacrimi cu afirmatiile tale pacifiste. Ghandi era mic copil pe langa tine. Oh Beni sa stii ca azi nu te contrazic. Sursa cu care „gandesti” tu „logic” este intr-adevar Dumnezeu, in consecinta lipseste cu desavarsire, si sa stii ca se vede Benilain! Sa nu uitam acest factor inmportant, da Benilain? :-* :worship: :zombiekiller:

  12. Ovidiu says:

    Un articol din ziar, mi-a adus pacea interioara. In articol scria: „Poti obtine pacea interioara daca termini toate lucrurile pe care le-ai inceput!” Asa ca, azi dimineata, am terminat o sticla de vodca, una de vin rosu, si vreo doua beri. Deja ma simt mult mai bine! Trimite reteta asta tuturor celor care vor sa-si gaseasca pacea interioara.

  13. study_nature says:

    Dialogul din aceasta banda desenata ajunge la esenta.

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